Friday, December 19, 2014

C2 Shattered Camping Trip Idea

TLDR: How I would live in a shattered C2, with 1 account and get rich (well C2 level rich)!

Camping; When well off people act like the homeless people. Homeless people just get to do it year round and in less pretty settings, but its essentially the same thing.

Well C2 Shattered wormholes give us this opportunity to do it in EVE.

What do we know about C2 shattered wormholes?

One – They can only be accessed in destroyer, frigate or artificially mass reduced ships like heavy interdictors.

Two—They seem to be filled with far more sigs/anoms then your average C2. I’m just guessing on this, but it sounded good.

Three – No moons means no POS’s allowed. This creates an interesting challenge for anyone who wishes to live in one. This is where the camping trip comes in.

Its clear that CCP doesn’t really want people to live long term in a shattered hole, so lets do exactly the opposite just to say we did.

The Ship:

For the following days of you being in the hole, you need a ship that can withstand c2 sleeper level damage, I chose the Onyx Heavy Interdictor. But Spear it won't fit! (how many times i wished I heard that.:sadface: ) it will if you activate your Warp Disruption field generator. This trick has been used for going light through holes for years, now we can use it to squeze through destroyer/frig size entrances. :)

low slot 0" type="Shield Power Relay II"
low slot 1" type="Shield Power Relay II"
low slot 2" type="Ballistic Control System II”
low slot 2" type="Ballistic Control System II”

"med slot 0" type="Adaptive Invulnerability Field II"
"med slot 1" type="Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier"
"med slot 2" type="Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I"
"med slot 3" type="Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron"
"med slot 4" type="Pithum C-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier"
"med slot 5" type="Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier"

"hi slot 0" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II"
"hi slot 1" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II"
"hi slot 2" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II”
"hi slot 3" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II"
"hi slot 4" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II"
"hi slot 5" type="Warp Disruption Field Generator I"

"rig slot 0" type="Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I"
"rig slot 1" type="Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I"

qty="200" slot="cargo" type="Scourge Precision Heavy Missile"

EDIT!--- Someone on reddit reminded me that C2 Shattered have a C6 wolf rayet star efffect on small weapons. So if you swap out the heavy missiles with rapid lights, you can push out around 600+ DPS  900 DPS!! at 44k -- This also increases your chance of living from a gank.. not many tackle ships could handled that level of blap. Good suggestion -- Chenal

I’m sure you could alter this to taste but remember you might not be fighting just sleepers. A frig/destroyer/Heavy Interdictor gang may drop on you, so best be prepared.

The cost of this ship comes in around 452 million isk, which is significant, but the hull price of the Onyx is 390 of that, which I think is wrong or altered in some way (markets are weird sometimes).

62m isk is the cost of the fittings. I went with Pith C because they are reasonable to me for 23m a piece.  I’m sure you could get this level of resistances from active resist mods, but some sleepers neut and that might alter its tanking ability.

You could swap out some of the BCS II for more tank, or less SPR II for less regen, whatever works for you.

Camping trip Equipment (You may need a couple trips from your staging point to the wormhole to get fully established, but I doubt it)

Move in fit items. 

These are items that you will only use when you are moving to and from the C2 hole.

4 – Expanded Cargohold II – This boosts the cargo capacity of this Onyx to 1,190 m3.. which is a lot for a combat ship.

1—Improved Cloak – This you won’t use on a regular basis, you will just use it when you are moving in, setting up or if you suspect there are hostiles in your C2 Shattered camping spot.

2 – Mobile Depot. (more about those later)

1 – Core Probe Launcher


1 – Mobile tractor unit

16 – Core probes (Sister probes if you can afford them)

Ammo! LOTS OF AMMO! This one factor will determine how long you can stay in your camping spot.

2 – Anchorable cans. (I forget the size but which ever one is like 300m3 I want to say small?)

1 – Hacking module (these are optional because your ship isn’t really set up for data sites, but in case you felt the urge to try it doesn’t take up much room and it might be fun)

1—Archeology module (same reason as Hacking module)

Move in Steps:

1.       Once the hole is found. You should have your ship and kit already for your adventure.
2.       Take your Onyx fit with a cloak and Expanded cargohold II’s, and head on in. You will need your warp field generator to get through the frigate only entrance. Turn it on… and slide on in !Now you just brought a cruiser into a frigate only hole! 

3.       First thing, make safe book marks all over the C2. These will be what you want to warp to if you suspect there are hostiles chasing you. If you are wondering how to make a “safe Spot” here’s how. As you are warping between two points, say the Sun and planet 10. Open up your people and places tab. As you are in warp between those two points, create a book mart for “this spot”. This will book mark your mid warp location, which is unique to the bookmark you have and no one else. You then warp back to that spot and you will notice you are not near anything else that could be easily warped to. Make lots of these, some you use for running away from people, some you will use for your anchorable items.

4.       Select two safes that you created for your 2 anchorable containers.  You might be able to get away with 1, but it adds risk and you may run out of room for your sweet loots. Why anchorable cans, and not use mobile depots? Mobile depots can be scanned down with combat probes, anchorable cans can’t. These cans will be floating in space when you’re logged off, holding all your harvested treasures and it would suck if someone found them. Limit your warping to these containers as much as possible, think of them as a saftey depost box filled with passports, cash, important things you won’t need till you're leaving. 

5.       Next make an entirely different safe spot for one of your mobile depot. This will be your modual swapping box where you fit your cloak, remove your expanded cargo hold II, store ammo and less critical items. If its scanned down while you are online and doing a site then for whatever reason camped by people for 24 hours (not likely but possible) you can write everything off in that can and consider it GG and go home. This mobile depo will only be anchored and out while you are online. You will scoop this thing before you log off for the day. 

6.       Once you have all your book marks set up, your small anchorable cans set up, its time to start payin the bills!

Normal Day to Day.

You will be safe logging off at a safe spot every day. You should log off with your cloak fit on your ship, and all your equipment in your cargo hold.

You can skip these steps if you want to increase your risk level, though not recommended. You then warp to your mobile depot refitting spot.

Drop your mobile depot, move your in hold items into the mobile depot, refit your ship for whatever you plan on doing.

If its scanning, fit a scanner and cloak. 

If its sleeper sites, refit for tank/DPS. Drop your mobile tractor unit. Kill the sleepers, scoop the tractor unit,  book mark a wreck to come back to when its time to salvage. 

 If its time to salvage, refit for salvage. Since you will be warping back to a site with all the wrecks on top of each other, you can just sit there and salvage without moving.

Once you have loot, warp to the anchorable cans and drop the loot off. Come back to the refitting mobile depot pick up all your things and log off.

You are essentially living/camping in a home, collecting sweet sleeper stuff and for the most part don’t really need to worry about a T3 rape gang coming in to ruin your day.

Important thing to remember. NEVER and I mean NEVER remove the extra depot from your cargohold. Or the cloak, probe launcher or probes. If the shit hits the fan and everything goes south, you will need those things to get your ship out of the hole long after the threat has given up on finding you. Don't be that guy!

Threats—Remember it’s a frig/destroyer/HIC hole so the only thing you really need to worry about is  those types of ships. Stay vigilant and watch that D-scan. If someone does warp on grid, align to a safe, activate that warp drive, shoot off the tackle and do your best. You will be in the biggest class of ship that can be brought to the field so, they will need to blob you to kill you. If you do make it out from the first tackle attempt, bounce to those safes and wait out your weapons timers. Watch for combat probes on D-scan, limit your D-scan to 1au. The second those probes are seen within 1 AU warp to the next safe spot.

Once your weapons timer is off, warp to a safe and log off.

Remember the goal of this is do it with 1 account/character, to say you did it and to make some isk, but accomplishing what few people ever thought was possible.

Good luck

Tuesday, December 16, 2014

The bat phone: Good? Bad? Don't know!

TLDR: I ramble on and make no point what so ever, but I would like the readers input on the topic.

A brief description on the Bat Phone and what it is.

The term Bat Phone refers back to Commissioner Gordon’s “secure line” to batman in the 1966 TV show “Batman”. The term was adopted as a reference for a secure line given directly to key/selected individuals to use in emergencies. The reason Commissioner Gordon used it was a need for some extra vigilante caped crusader action. The reason bat man answered it was the normal day to day that Commissioner Gordon put up with batman’s level of involvement wasn’t needed. It was a mutual beneficial relationship.  

In EVE and especially where I live in EVE, W-space, the bat phone is in full effect. What I would like to talk about today is how it’s used, why it’s used or if it’s used too often.

Isogen 5 (the corp I’m a part of) is very similar to my old corp, SUSU. Iso5 a corp almost totally devoted to pvp in w-space. Occasionally we venture out to other places, but for the most part W-space is the place. How we find targets is focusing on scouting chains and creating situations from the targets available. Sometimes (most) we bite off more than we can chew.

One of the best things about w-space and one of the worst is how small it is. I don’t mean small as in size, but I’m referring to a small town feel you get when you live in it for a very long time. Everyone knows everyone and reputation is key. Break your word, disrespect someone, insult someone or a group of someone’s, it’s difficult to just blend back into the crowd like say... Null sec. 

What tends to happen is, people with similar goals, group up for a potentially positive outcome. These temporary blue agreements almost never result in betrayal of the parties involved. If they did, they could consider that phone line cut and if any other people heard about it, they would cut their lines fairly quickly too. W-space pvp gangs operate how different wolf pack groups operate in the wild. Teaming up just long enough to get the kill, get some lunch and GTFO of there.  

Good Reasons for the bat phones.

1.       1. The smaller calling a bigger corp/group for back up gets support to pull off larger ops they normally wouldn’t get to because of lower member counts. Lower member counts means you have less content ‘mouths to feed’. Good if you want to stay nimble with the direction of your corp.

       2. The person answering the smaller corp/group get to feed their large group of people content. This can be a challenge without connections. The more connected your group is, can be measured by its successes. More successes, the more talent that wants to be a part of your group. Good for replacing inactive members and maintaining strength and all the benefits that come with that strength.

Bad Things about bat phones.

1.      1. Your individual reputation for both the small corp using a bat phone and the larger group answering can be altered. Example: Commissioner Gordon just becomes a tool for batman, instead of “Commissioner” and all the job activities linked to that title, he might just get known for “Just that guy who calls batman” I’m sure Commissioner Gordon had a normal day to day outside of talking on the phone. His reputation may be tarnished because of this tool. 

2.      2. If you use it too much and your enemies know this it could change the importance of it. Worse, it may go from boon to a hindrances. Example: If the Joker knows Commissioner Gordon is going to pick up the bat phone each and every time, he could lay a trap for batman, using Gordon as the catalyst. This has the possible outcome of bat man taking away Gordon’s phone.

Both of these sets points are argued about extensively in every W-space corp I have ever been a part of. Typically the arguments all stem “did you use it too much?… did you use the wrong one?… did you fuck up and use it when it wasn’t needed?” 

When I was a CEO those previously mentioned comments kept me awake. Its no small wonder why so many CEO's simply give up, make a call on the process and forget about the arguments, for and agienst. 

My opinions on the tactic:

EVE and its game play have 10 times as many opinions about right and wrong game play,than players in the game. This is what makes the game so interesting. My own opinion is whatever brings inter-pilot friendship and game play is a good thing. Even if those activities have a negative ISK growth outcome with all parties involved, including my own.

I have worked long and hard in this game to convince myself and others that ISK generation/retention isn’t the only way to play this game. Accepting that another persons game style is just as valid as mine might be the hardest task in EVE.

The ISK generation style of game play has a path and interceding that path are people who wish to derail that game play goal for their own amusement. You would think that both styles of game play are diametrically apposed, they aren’t. They are so reliant on each other, if one would disappear the other wouldn’t be worth practicing.

Bat phoning is the path that both parties can use for different reasons, but when they use that path there are inherent consequences linked to the use of that path.


I wish I could make some kind of profound point to this post, I can’t, but I do want to talk more about it with people. So if you have an opinion on the topic, please reply to this post and sell me on your way of thinking. 

Keep in mind your way of thinking isn't 100% right in fact it may be 100% wrong to someone else. I think what I'm really getting at is, I value your conveyed point of view to further solidify my own, I also hope that my own opinion does the same for you. 

The goal of this post is to attempt to bring in a greater level of personal investment no matter your position on the topic. 

Tuesday, December 2, 2014

Macy Li 2.0

 TLDR: The story of Macy Li, EVE collective judgement and the humans behind the keyboard. 

I would like to state right out the gate, I do not participate or condone the out of game harassment of other players, I'm simply telling a story of things I personally witnessed. <--- read that sentence again if you could possibly be confused. This means you CCP Falcon! I know this topic can go entirely sideways if interpreted incorrectly by people who don’t understand the definition and purpose of the word ‘satire'. So I’m going to provide the definition before I continue.

Satire is defined as the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.”

My use of this comedic form in my writing, podcasts and actions have the goal to bring humor and possible social change. Mostly humor honestly, but the byproduct of any good satirist is social norms being highlighted for the foolishness most are. It’s sad honestly, that I need to preface what comes next by explaining this, but meh, I just live in this world, I don’t make the rules.

Preface —My wife and I honestly enjoy being parents for the experience of passing on what we know and our way of life. I was raised in a household of all women and I live in a house hold of all women. I was brought up that women are as equal to men in every way imaginable (other than biologically, duh).  I’m the father of a 7 year old girl know it all, that looks like a smaller blonder version of me. I have and will continue to express to her what my family instilled in me which is women can do anything men can do. They don't need our protection anymore then any man ever would, to do so belittles them and the social challenges women have striven to overcome in the past.

I’m finding out as a parent there are significant social pressures that exist outside of my control, that apply influence, counter to my teachings. I discovered this when trying to get my daughter to take mixed martial arts lessons instead of dance lessons. She wants to be a princess, not a fighter. She would rather play dress up than help Dad build/destroy something in the back yard. It’s not that she is told from me that only girls can play dress up and not enjoy destroying something. Its just that media outside of my influence of control is making an impression on her. Some activities are a gender specific and she knows it. She is brought up thinking its socially acceptable, that little girls shouldn’t enjoy destroying things like boys do. That little girl, will eventually grows up to a woman who learned at an early age, destroying things is something boys do. Sure there are exceptions, but I'm referring to my own experiences.

Now usually a preface like that leads most people to think that I’m going to say something sexist next, quite the contrary. I think the whole situation is funny and a great target for satirical action.

The story of Macy Li.

This might have been the funniest example of digital sexism I have ever witnessed. Foedus (guy in my corp) links in team speak chat a twitch stream. He states "check this out, Black Legions newest member", Macy Li. The second I clicked on the twitch link I saw a very attractive Asian woman wearing a low cut top attempting to play EVE, I instantly knew this would be good and we had gold level content on our hands. How ever this ended, bad or good,  pure comedic gold was the outcome.

See EVE and the playing of EVE is a perfect example of gender specific role/video game. Again, not that a woman couldn’t play it, many do, it’s just that most don’t. I don’t make up the demographic numbers, this is just how it is.

What made this Macy Li scenario so perfect was how over the top the situation was.  It’s that a woman wearing full war paint level make up, working a low cut top is in a position of “perceived vulnerability”(being a newbie). This is a recipe for disaster. Should it be in this day and age? Nope. Is it?  Yep.

The twitch steam chat on the right hand side was amazing.  Trolls and white knights battling to the death for the honor of the fair maiden. As a confessed troll myself, I can’t fucking stand white knights.

For those of you who don’t know, a white knight is someone who attempts to befriend/defend to the death, every set of tits on the internet, in some futile attempt to deprive themselves of persistent virginity. Because in their minds, helpless females need their defending. These turds of the interwebs were defending Macy Li in droves. The trolls, smelling blood in the water, did their work. The more trolling, the more white knights. One compounded the other, the battle was epic.I watched in shock as this train derailment unfolded in front of me. I couldn't stop... it was the most compelling internet at the time.

These EVE players trolled the shit out Macy Li, and as much as you would think she should go screaming from her console, quite the opposite happened. She loved it. She seemed to thrive on it.

Though she never successfully made it out of the newbie starting system, she had over a thousand people watching  her in the 2+ hours she twitch streamed. What made the situation even more intense was, she would read some of the titles of her sexually explicit mails people sent her and laugh. This did two things, got her the attention she desired and bolstered the troll who sent the mail to recognition status (the goal of most trolls). 

This then brought a greater response from the white knights and it just compounded from there. The whole situation got so out of hand that eventually CCP Devs attempted to cool it off by attempting to open up convos with her. This attempt to control the fire, backfired. What their actions did was brought a level of legitimacy to this obvious stunt from an attention hungry twitch streamer. Score 1 for Macy Li.

The whole thing couldn’t have been planned more perfectly. Though after watching her try and block her in game location via real life post-it note on the screen to“block what the viewer can see”, might have been too much, but it was so perfectly executed. She is either a total moron, doesn’t understand twitch streaming or one of the greatest actors of our time, we may never know.   

Sadly the established illusion was shattered when her handler(some random guy) wandered into the twitch video feed to hand her something. From the brief moment we saw the handler we knew we had been duped.  He looked like some nerdy guy who must have set this whole thing up for us, because there is no way Macy li could figure out streaming software, with real life post-it note on the monitor computer level understanding.

A pretty girl manipulating men for gain isn’t something new, which makes me wonder how men are so surprised when it happens to them and how defensive they get when they find out they were duped.

The BC show interviewed Macy Li after the fact.  (she doesn’t come on till around minute 43)

In that interview the amount of back pedaling done by the hosts of this podcast was impressive to say the least.  When they say that they are interviewing her because she is a good example of a newbie and not an attractive female is fking comical. Its so cringe worthy, its sad.   

Even when the Black Legion guy says the only reason she is in black legion, was a joke. The hosts of the show won’t stop trying to say they are just talking to her for a newbie perspective and not because she was wearing heavy makeup, yoga pants and a low cut top. Yea right. Lets call a spade a spade guys. I'm sure its not the first time the little head has made discussions for you.

The wheels of my plot machine started to spin.

What if I recreate this level of conflict and social awkwardness on demand?

A plan was born and I approached my wife with my plot. I asked her if she wanted to participate in the “new player experience”. She agreed.

I got my attractive wife to put on her yoga pants (just like Macy) a pushup bra (just like Macy) and don her facial war paint (just like Macy). I was trying to replicate the hilarity of Macy Li all over again for my own satirical amusement. Call it female exploitation, call it what you will, I thought it was funny so I did it. FU if you think its wrong.

I prepped her with knowledge that she was going to have some explicit language come her way. Some terrible things would be said to her. So on and so forth, but my wife is a stronger person than I am and she welcomed the challenge. To my surprise, none of that happened.

People in the twitch stream were helpful, respectful and didn’t abuse her anywhere near the level that Macy Li experienced. It was weird. I wanted to draw out the trolls, pervs and white knights to have my wife torment them in ways only an attractive female could.  

 Nothing. Just friendly gamers being friendly. Where were the attention hungry trolls? The self righteous white knights? It was just cool peeps being cool. So this made me re-evaluate that whole situation.

I think where I went wrong in my recreation was not distancing myself from the whole experience. 

There was a picture of my wife and CCP Guard that I used as a chat blocker. My wife was a plus 1 for me at EVE Vegas. This clued people in that this wasn't your typical‘helpless female trying to play a new game’. The illusion, was never really established. 

Even if that illusion was well established, I think people would have been just as respectful. It was weird. Then it clicked in my head what the issue was. 

The reason Macy Li got the response that she did, wasn’t because of her being in a low cut top, or yoga pants or that she was a woman. It was because each and every person who trolled her and harassed her, somehow knew that the whole Macy Li illusion was fake. The community was taking a collective action to troll her out of the video game. 

What people dislike more than anything is someone who is fake, man or woman. This is why the trolls attacked Macy Li, not because she was an attractive female, in a helpless newbie role, but because she overplayed her hand.

In summary;

Lightning may never strike twice. The recreation of another Macy Li phenomenon may be impossible, but at least I can say that when the community is tested and the lowest common denominator is expected,  Eve players will act like human beings 1st and trolls 2nd. 

But...  if you bring a weak ass game, over play your hand and go over the top in execution, EVE players will make your in game life shit.